This is not a question of American citizens’ rights, this is a question of the US government purposely arming narcoterrorists in order to have this talking point, claiming the 90% lie over and over.
I can’t think of many things more insulting or downright foul to hear from our President other than his own crimes being blamed on our rights – as was intended. He is now going international with the demand that our rights go away because he committed crimes… to deny us those rights.
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This is like a rapist saying “not only did she deserve it when I did it to her, but that proves my point, we have to keep the world safe from women like her who cause rape”.
First update on the civil suit against the Justice Department, from UT San Diego:
WASHINGTON — A federal judge seemed skeptical Wednesday of the Justice Department’s bid to dismiss a congressional lawsuit seeking records related to Operation Fast and Furious, a bungled federal gun-tracking operation in Arizona.
When asked about the breakdown, Stephen Fischer, a spokesman for the NICS System, said the FBI had no comment. However, an ATF agent who worked on the Fast and Furious investigation, told Fox News that NICS officials called the ATF in Phoenix whenever their suspects tried to buy a gun. That conversation typically led to a green light for the buyers, when it should have stopped them.
From the UD SD story again, the judge is at least doing her job:
Judge Amy Berman Jackson sharply challenged the department’s claim that federal courts have no jurisdiction in the dispute. Department lawyer Ian Gershengorn said the battle over the documents should be resolved by the checks and balances between the legislative and executive branches.
“I’m a check and balance,” countered Jackson, an appointee of President Barack Obama. “The third branch exists.”
Well, she seems better than other Obama appointments. And she seems to understand that there has been no “check and balance” when the Department of Justice and the president have simply claimed executive privilege and hushed everything up – which is the reason for the lawsuit. She is seeing things up close, so she probably has to acknowledge what’s going on. She’s being presented with information directly, and can’t just ignore things like the media does.
To some degree, this is also a story of how the media not only gets it wrong, but how the media is carrying water for Obama.
The department has turned over thousands of pages of material on the operation itself. The continuing dispute is over documents describing how the department responded once Congress started investigating.
That’s what the Justice Department sent as “documents”. Page after page after page.
Gershengorn said that if the suit were dismissed, Congress had other powers at its disposal, such as the power of the purse. He said that negotiations and accommodation between the House and the executive branch are messy and contentious, but that the system allows for accountability with voters.
That is absurd, insulting, and the kind of thing that would get Sam Adams heating up the tar and sending somebody to get feathers. The DOJ is hushing up a the murder of two federal agents and hundreds of mexican citizens, hushing up their program that is the kind of violent criminal conspiracy that would make headlines for years if it were done by organized crime, but instead, is hushed up because the media simply refuses to report it, and refuses to report the truth because they love their great leader.
Saying that Congress can simply use “the power of the purse” to reduce budgets for departments is absurd. No one is held accountable for this:
People need to go to prison, not have their department funding meddled with. The DOJ lawyer Gershengorn should be with them as an accomplice after the fact to murders.
House lawyer Kerry Kircher called the notion that there haven’t been meaningful negotiations and accommodations “preposterous.”
“We’ve been negotiating for four months,” Kircher said.
He also said the House was at a disadvantage.
“This is an asymmetrical relationship here,” Kircher said. “They have the documents. We don’t have the documents.”
As to Congress’ powers, such as reducing spending for the executive branch, he said, “All that means is they get less money” – not that the committee gets the documents.
Presented with this kind of thing, I’d like to say the judge won’t just rule in favor of who appointed her, but there’s little telling.
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David Codrea at Examiner.com has some info on “Guns Across the Border“, a book that tells the story of Operation Wide Receiver.
“Operation Wide Receiver,” a precursor to “Operation Fast and Furious” wherein U.S. guns were bought by straw purchasers and “walked” under the noses of ATF investigators into Mexico, has been the subject of numerous Gun Rights Examiner reports. The central figure in those reports was Mike Detty, a gun writer, a firearms dealer, and the confidential informant who literally risked his life over the course of years to do what he believed was right, only to find the obvious criminals weren’t the only ones he couldn’t trust.
Operation Wide receiver really was a botched sting. The ATF in Mexico knew that guns were coming, the Mexican authorities knew guns were coming. The smugglers turned out to be good at smuggling and got a lot of guns past both US and Mexican authorities through a variety of tactics. Smugglers are good at smuggling? Who’da thunk it?
Fast and Furious, by contrast, was not a botched sting. The ATF in Mexico (ATF attache Darren Gil) and the Mexican authorities had no idea guns were coming, and the purpose was to find guns at murder scenes in Mexico, about which ATF supervisors were “almost giddy”.
Wide Receiver sought to track and interdict guns being smuggled south using a combination of RFID-tracking devices embedded in the shipments and overheard surveillance aircraft. Wide Receiver failed because of the limitations of the technology used, compounded by the ineptness of its installation and the unexpected resourcefulness of the cartel’s gun smugglers.
As a result of the mistakes made in Wide Receiver, guns were lost: approximately 450 made it into Mexico. As a result, the botched operation launched in 2006 — and in this instance, actually botched — was shut down in 2007.
Compare the mistakes of Wide Receiver to the operations launched under Eric Holder’s Department of Justice, which had the advantages of learning from the postmortem failures of Wide Receiver two years before.
Fast and Furious used neither tracking devices nor aircraft, ran interference for smugglers with local law enforcement on multiple occasions, and federal agents were not allowed to interdict weapons.
Wide Receiver shut down within a year after 450 weapons went missing in a botched law enforcement operation. Fast and Furious purposefully ran at least 2,020 weapons to the Sinaloa cartel without any intention of arresting the straw purchasers and smugglers. Other operations in other states — CBS News’ Attkisson cites allegations of “at least 10 cities in five states” — allow the possibility that (if the other operations were as prolific as Fast and Furious) Holder’s Department of Justice may have intentionally sent more than 12,000 guns into criminal hands in the U.S and Mexico, enough to arm three U.S. Army brigades.
Law enforcement operations sometimes go horribly wrong, and every indication is that Operation Wide Receiver executed by the ATF during the Bush administration while Alberto Gonzales was the attorney general was a “keystone cops” operation of the first magnitude. It was a horrible failure.
Spanish channel Univision has won a Peabody Award for their Fast and Furious reporting. Most all American media outlets choose to ignore the ATF’s botched Gun Walking operations where over 2500 guns ended up in Mexican cartels hands.
It’s worth noting that they do start out with a lie that 70% of guns in Mexico come from the US, which Stratfor disproved back when the claim was 90%, but beyond that, it’s not too bad.
As the immigration reform Gang of Eight inside the Beltway prepares to announce a deal later this week, claiming border security will come before a path to citizenship for millions of illegals, Border Patrol agents have seen illegal border crossings double and warn the cutting of agent work hours will only result in less border security, not more.
“We’ve seen the number of illegal aliens double, maybe even triple since amnesty talk started happening,” an agent told Townhall, who asked to remain unnamed due to fears of retaliation within Customs and Border Protection [CBP], something he said is common. “A lot of these people, although not the majority, are criminals or aggravated felons. This is a direct danger to our communities.”
Data obtained by Townhall and reported within CBP from February 5 through March 1, 2013 shows 504 illegal aliens were spotted exploiting the Tucson/Nogales area, 189 were caught on CBP intelligence cameras. Of those 504, only 174 were apprehended and 32 of the 189 on camera were carrying large drug load packs for Mexican cartels. Some were armed with AK-47 style weapons.
Folks who live and work on the border are well aware of this. It’s happening all up and down the Texas border, and illegals are already asking BP agents for their “Obama papers”.
The drones aren’t in wide enough use yet to know what the numbers look like in other spots along the border but that situation may soon be remedied. And Border Patrol isn’t thrilled at the prospect. The official data on border security is a bit different from what the drones are seeing:
According to internal reports, Border Patrol agents used the airborne radar to help find and detain 1,874 people in the Sonora Desert between Oct. 1 and Jan. 17. But the radar system spotted an additional 1,962 people in the same area who evaded arrest and disappeared into the United States.
It’s very difficult to catch illegal aliens in many remote locations throughout the American southwest.
There are pretty much three types of illegal aliens – those that are apprehended, those whose tracks/paths are found but not apprehended, and those that are neither tracked/detected nor apprehended. The ones caught and the ones that are known gotaways or turnbacks are the only two that can be counted. You obviously cannot count aliens whose existence you’re unaware of.
The addition of a drone that scans the area just lets you know how many more that you didn’t find on the ground got past or got scared back (and usually crossed later). And there are more now.
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To make sense of this current increase, imagine you could sneak into Canada and make 10x what you’re making now as a guy who mows lawns. Now imagine all you have to do is just get past the mounties on the porous border, and as soon as you’re to Calgary or Ottawa, you’re scot-free, as you’re in a “sanctuary city” where no one enforces the law – and because you’re an illegal alien, they won’t enforce province or city laws against you, either. Now imagine that the PM of Canada, we’ll call him Hockey Obama-eh, is talking about giving you a path to stay in the country legally, even though you broke the law to enter. Don’t you think you’d go jump the line ahead of those legal suckers for a free chance at 10x your normal pay?
You just have to walk through that – once.
Oh, and let’s not forget to add in that your Institutional Revolutionary Party in the United States has been blaming all your ills on the evil Canadians – blaming them for your drug trade and crime and blaming them for your country’s failures. Your politicians have spent years deflecting blame onto Canada – so you don’t care about Canada as a nation and you view the Canadian people as racist oppressors. And your politicians have talked about how Canada really belongs to the US, according to some fanciful interpretation of history that was decided hundreds of years ago – so you feel you have an ethnic and historical claim and entitlement to Canada’s wealth. Some of Canada’s liberals even believe it and are so guilt-ridden they agree with your political propaganda, too.
They have all that bacon and beer and “free” health care and you have nothing! They stole it from you! You deserve it! And they’ll let you do what you want because their politicians feel like it’s not nice to kick you out (and they want you to vote for them illegally, or legally once they make you citizens).
Look at those smug oppressors!
And let’s add in The Race, a racist organization dedicated to promoting people from the US in Canada at the expense of Canadian citizens, all while calling Canadians who politely ask you politely to leave – racists. So you have your own advocacy group, you have their government backing you except for a thin line of mounties, and you’re being told you’ll be able to stay, many of their people want you for cheap labor or feel you’re entitled to their land, and you believe you’re entitled to whatever you like in their land.
Don’t you think you’d be making a run for the border right now?
ACAPULCO, Mexico (AP) — Hundreds of armed vigilantes have taken control of a town on a major highway in the Pacific coast state of Guerrero, arresting local police officers and searching homes after a vigilante leader was killed. Several opened fire on a car of Mexican tourists headed to the beach for Easter week. (Much of this via Borderland Beat is from NYT, hence the bias. – ST)
Members of the area’s self-described “community police” say more than 1,500 members of the force were stopping traffic Wednesday at improvised checkpoints in the town of Tierra Colorado, which sits the highway connecting Mexico City to Acapulco. They arrested 12 police and the former director of public security in the town after a leader of the state’s vigilante movement was slain on Monday.
A tourist heading to the beach with relatives was slightly wounded Tuesday after they refused to stop at a roadblock and vigilantes fired shots at the car, officials said.
That’s what happens when you run checkpoints in dangerous areas, where community police are having to fight against narcoterrorist cartels and a violently corrupt government.
The vigilantes accuse the ex-security director of participating in the killing of vigilante leader Guadalupe Quinones Carbajal, 28, on behalf of local organized crime groups and dumping his body in a nearby town on Monday. They reported seizing several high-powered rifles from his car, and vigilantes were seen toting a number of sophisticated assault rifles on Wednesday, although it was not clear if all had been taken from the ex-security director’s car.
Sophisticated assault rifles?
They know what’s up.
“We have besieged the municipality, because here criminals operate with impunity in broad daylight, in the view of municipal authorities. We have detained the director of public security because he is involved with this criminals and he knows who killed our commander,” said Bruno Placido Valerio, a spokesman for the vigilante group.
No matter how many times Placido states it and talks about the violence and corruption, the left will not get behind people fighting against corrupt governments and dictators, as evidenced by the Obama administration’s support of Zelaya in Honduras, and the NYT’s bias in the story.
Placido said vigilantes had searched a number of homes in the town and seized drugs from some. They turned over the ex-security director and police officers to state prosecutors, who agreed to investigate their alleged ties to organized crime.
The growing movement of “self-defense” vigilante groups has seen masked townspeople throw up checkpoints in several parts of southern and western Mexico, stopping passing motorists to search for weapons or people whose names are on hand-written lists of “suspects” wanted for crimes like theft and extortion.
If their government wasn’t composed of criminals, they could stay home and all be farmers and merchants and enjoy life.
The groups say they are fighting violence, kidnappings and extortions carried out by drug cartels, but concerns have surfaced that the vigilantes may be violating the law, the human rights of people they detain, or even cooperating with criminals in some cases.
And here the leftism shows up again. Better to have everyone at the mercy of narcoterrorists and corrupt government tyrants than to have the people stand up for themselves. “The law” means nothing where they live, and they’ve reasoned correctly that detaining someone wrongly is better than being beheaded.
Which criminals are they cooperating with, the police or the state government? The situation is abysmal because no one will address it. The people are doing what they must do for themselves – no one else will do it. Maybe a rare few are working with criminals, but more likely the government is just accusing them so they can be targeted later.
Sensitive over their lack of ability to enforce public safety in rural areas, official have largely tolerated vigilante groups.
Officials in Mexico have no authority anywhere, don’t care, and don’t serve or protect.
The people are sick of being terrorized by their own government and the cartels, and they’re using their natural rights to fight back.
…except for the ABC story at HotAir that says apprehensions are down.
Mira, the way the Border Patrol works is that if they catch them, they’re apprehensions. If they get away, they’re listed as gotaways. Pretty simple so far. If there are overlapping stations, they may or may not count them as gotaways for the station, because it doesn’t look good for stations to state they’re letting illegals through. So they may pass them off to other stations either to attempt apprehension, or to call them someone else’s gotaways, or the record of the gotaways may be passed back. Stations do things different ways, some list gotaways to show that they’re being overrun and need additional resources, others don’t list gotaways so they can say they have the area under control. It all depends on local management and how they feel about the situation; and different directives from DC on what constitutes what.
From what I’ve heard and seen, and from plenty of open sources as well, the border is in fact not under control, and there are in fact significantly larger numbers of aliens crossing, being apprehended, and getting away.
No small part of this is due to the fact that smuggling operations were able to listen to Obama’s statements that the Border Patrol would have reduced hours for agents – and reduced time in the field means reduced time to apprehend aliens, means more time during shift changes, and means less time to cover remote areas far from the actual station headquarters. Just like any rural law enforcement, officers have to show up for work and then drive to where they’re needed – and often times they’re needed far from where they start their workday.
None of this is news to anyone who’s ever worked anything as simple as a delivery route, or set up a military watch or patrol of a perimeter, or just thought about it for a few minutes. Folks have other things to do, so they typically aren’t thinking about law enforcement operations – but in this case, there’s been a cause and effect from Obama saying “reduced hours” and alien/drug smugglers knowing exactly what that means to them.
Aliens also know that Obama’s promises of ramming amnesty down the throats of American citizens is good news for fence-jumpers. All they have to do is get in before the deadline and they get a claim to your tax dollars.
A second wrongful death lawsuit has been filed blaming U.S. government officials involved in the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and Explosives’ “Operation Fast and Furious,” which allowed thousands of weapons to fall into the hands of Mexican drug cartels.
Tuesday, the Texas family of fallen Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent Jaime Zapata sued the Justice Department, the Department of Homeland Security, the former head of the ATF and others they blame in Zapata’s death.
In February 2011, Zapata and his partner Victor Avila were gunned down in Mexico by suspected drug cartel members. Avila survived but was critically injured and has joined Zapata’s family in the suit.
As CBS News reported, at least two of the murder weapons had been trafficked by suspects the ATF had under surveillance but failed to arrest. Zapata’s parents argue that if ATF agents had arrested the suspects and confiscated the weapons early on, the rifles might not have been used in their son’s murder.
Slate calls this piece “The Battle Against The Clock“, but it’s really about not listening to cooler heads or understanding the issue:
The battle for gun control is a battle against the clock. After a tragedy like the massacre in Newtown, Conn., gun control advocates say lawmakers have about 30 days to channel public outrage toward enacting laws that might prevent another mass killing. After that, people get distracted, new challenges crop up, memories dim, and nothing gets done. Those who would like to stop gun control legislation know how this clock ticks, too. It is a battle between emotion and organization. How long can the emotion be sustained and how long can the NRA organization wait it out?
There are two avenues for change emerging out of the discussions held by Vice President Biden. One is a long list of potential legislative changes: laws to ban assault weapons, limit the size of high-capacity magazine clips, promote universal background checks, crack down on gun trafficking, improve mental health screening, and perhaps nudge Hollywood into tamping down some of the violence in video games and movies. That’s the grinding, nose-counting process that will take place in Congress. The second, larger task, as administration officials describe it, is broader and more fuzzy. It requires changing the culture of guns in America and shifting the conversation from one of protecting gun rights enshrined in the Constitution to one of protecting children.
That is a fundamental change of the culture of the United States. That is destroying the right enshrined in the Constitution and replacing it with “for the children!”
Nothing pulls at heartstrings more than children. And Democrats know that once people sit back a bit and realize that the dangers of a disarmed citizenry before an oppressive government invariably proves the maxim: “A madman in an armed society can kill dozens, a madman in a disarmed society will kill millions.”
Listening to those involved in this effort there are echoes of the 2008 Obama campaign—they describe an energy and swell of sentiment that just needs a person to shape and guide it. Activists who have been fighting for gun control for years describe a new unexpected passion among progressive groups. After meeting with the vice president and his staffers, they express surprise (and delight) at how seriously the president and his team are pushing this effort.
They want to fundamentally destroy the nation, to “change” it into something unrecognizable, wherein they shape the world to their heart’s desire by manipulating you the citizen. Our Founders intended for the maximum amount of liberty and the smallest amount of government interference in your life. These progressive groups progress towards tyranny in which they will dictate how you will live. They’re not trying to change public opinion for more freedom and liberty, giving you choices of how you want to live, they’re trying to restrict you by telling you you’re stupid and it’s for your own good. And the clock is ticking, because they can only lie for so long before people catch on to it.
One of the key messages, says a White House official, is to “drain the drama and fear” out of what the president is proposing. The message the president wants to send is that he’s not trying to trample on hunters and sportsmen. That’s a necessary precursor to any legislation because advocates for reform argue that the only way they will be able to build popular and political support is if they can split the NRA from its leadership.
The key message is to lie.
Hunting and sports have nothing to do with the Second Amendment. Read it.
The “necessary precursor” is to lull the gullible into believing that their long-range sniper rifle isn’t next.
Photo by Oleg Volk.
If the membership can be convinced that the president is not an ideologue trying to grab their guns, they will be less likely to believe the NRA leadership who paint him that way.
If the big lie can be believed, they can get the foot in the door and get more bans passed.
If the president does make a full push to enact gun control laws or change public sentiment, it will be another test of the bully pulpit and its limitations. When President Obama pushed his health care reform it became less popular. His efforts to pressure Republicans during his first term in a variety of budget fights did not work. Neither of those causes had a galvanizing moment behind it though. The president has also shown signs that he’s going to be a little more combative in his second term than he was in the first.
The “bully pulpit” is used by someone who is, in fact, a bully, pushing a lie against citizens’ rights. Obamacare trampled citizens’ rights and is still being fought against because people know how it will impact them – they’re seeing limits on religious liberty already, wherein individuals who don’t believe in certain treatments are forced at the point of the government’s gun to pay for them.
The budget fights are a matter of Obama paying for his Curley Effect destruction of one income level to favor the income leve that votes for him due to handouts. A combative president who seeks to crush citizens’ rights used to be something so-called liberals were concerned about, but they aren’t. They’re all on board with the leftist-progressive utopia that can only be made at the point of the government’s gun.
Vice President Biden reports to the president Tuesday on the findings of his inquiries, and after that, the president will back a set of specific recommendations. He won’t offer legislation. Congress will have to come up with the language themselves. Based on conversations with administration officials and gun control activists, few think that an assault weapons ban is possible, though the president will push for one. A plan for stronger background checks is likely to have more support, as are laws that would crack down on gun trafficking. Whether the president can even build support for that depends on his will—and how long he can keep the time from running out.
Biden doesn’t care what anyone but the gun-banners are saying. That’s all there is to it. He’s anti gun, so’s Obama. It’s a farce.
An “assault weapons ban” is just a ban on modern firearms, putting the citizen at a disadvantage against criminals (who never follow laws) and additional disadvantage against the government (who, as history has shown, do what they like once they aren’t held accountable).
Then there’s this line:
A plan for stronger background checks is likely to have more support, as are laws that would crack down on gun trafficking.
If you’ve been reading this thinking that I sound a bit peeved, I am. The first part of that is banning private sales – as in you can’t sell a gun to your brother or sister – because the government has to get involved in your life and regulate your rights.
The second part is worse. Anything this government says about “trafficking” is infuriating beyond measure.
This is Susana Flores Maria Gamez, a Mexican beauty pageant queen murdered by narcoterrorists armed by Obama’s government.
This is Brian Terry, US Border Patrol agent and Marine veteran, murdered by narcoterrorists armed by Obama’s government.
This is Jaime Zapata, US ICE agent murdered by narcoterrorists armed by Obama’s government.
There are hundreds upon hundreds, possibly up to thousands of Mexicans and US citizens murdered by Obama’s deliberate plan to run guns to Mexican narcoterrorists in order to undermine the Second Amendment. ATF Phoenix SAC Bill Newell was the go-to guy for years worth of “US guns are going to Mexico” stories that were proven false by Stratfor; and he was the same man who was in contact with the White House through his friend Kevin O’Reilly; the same White House calling for gun bans.
For anyone in this current regime to go off saying that it’s time for laws against “gun trafficking” by destroying US citizens rights is insult to deliberate criminal injury. They want to take your rights away and they’ve been trying for years – and they’ve been trying the same things over and over. They tried to frame you and ended up killing hundreds if not thousands of our Mexican neighbors, and at least two federal law enforcement agents.
At about the 13 minute mark, Iowa Senator Chuck Grassley gives a pretty decent summary. When you listen to it, for those who haven’t heard it, you’ll see why this current round of gun control is that much more infuriating. The Obama administration has murdered people intentionally and is still covering up murders – all to push their gun control agenda against you, the citizen.
“Thomas Jefferson once said that, quote ‘The greatest danger to American freedom is a government that ignores the Constitution.’ Now politicians and bureaucrats prefer to talk about anything but the Constitution because you know what that Constitution does? It places inconvenient restrictions on their ability to concentrate more power in government. They even blame the Second Amendment for their own failure to enforce law. The gun grabbers in our government exploit any examples of lawlessness and violence as an excuse to infringe upon the rights of law abiding citizens. That’s why the Second Amendment defenders are often the most outspoken advocates for law and order.”
Now, before gunnies run for their weapons and belch out that tiresome and frighteningly violent malarkey about prying their firearms from their “cold, dead hands,” let me be clear: I believe that people have the right to arm themselves. The concept traces back to English common law, which is how it made its way into the Constitution. The problem is, for a variety of reasons, the Second Amendment has been twisted and bastardized in ways that could never have been conceived at the time of the nation’s founding. Just look at what has happened in states so far: the Michigan legislature passed a law allowing folks to carry concealed weapons in day-care centers, and Ohio is going forward with its plans to allow guns in the garages at the state capitol. The right, they claim, comes from the Second Amendment.
Actually, no. The right comes from natural law, which predates the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment merely codifies natural law within the constitution. Just because you go to a day-care center doesn’t mean that your right to defend yourself and your children ceases to exist; and the Second Amendement and Michigan’s law simply affirms this by leaving legal the most effective tools of self-defense.
Eichenwald really is.
As written, though, the amendment has nothing—nothing—to do with modern America. Worse, it is the biggest mess of verbiage in the whole Constitution, making its actual meaning almost impossible to discern. We need to get rid of it and try again with an amendment that makes sense.
The idiot sums it up with his “new” amendment:
The people retain the right to keep and bear arms, subject to reasonable restrictions deemed necessary by the Congress and the President to secure the lives and well being of others.
Citizens of the republic may, for their protection, own guns and arms in their homes. Only arms sanctioned by the Army may be owned, and federal law will state the manner in which they can be used.
And thus, the only people with guns in Mexico are the police, military, and narcoterrorist cartels. Pretty simple. The Army doesn’t sanction, federal law states they can’t be used, pretty simple. “Reasonable” restrictions from a despot mean “you will be disarmed”.
The rest of the piece is just the usual drivel and mindless blather that falls from the lips of leftists who can’t see that the big picture looks even worse in the long run when you have disarmament. It is precisely this reason that the Second Amendment is the very reason we have modern America and the peace that the US has provided, as opposed to the kind of governance that rules in nations with total power.
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