Paul Ryan’s Speech and the Facts: Part 2

Posted: August 30, 2012 by ShortTimer in 2012 Campaign, Barack Obama, Media, Politics

Point 3 from ThinkProgress:

3. Shuttered General Motors plant is “one more broken promise.” Ryan described a GM plant that closed down in his hometown, Janesville, Wisconsin, and blamed Obama for breaking his promise to keep the plant open when he visited during his campaign. But Obama never made that promise, and the plant shut down in December 2008, before Obama even took office.

From the source they cite:

Obama did speak at the plant in February 2008, and suggested that a government partnership with automakers could keep the plant open, but made no promises as Ryan suggested.

“I believe if our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition, that this plant will be here for another hundred years,” Obama said.

He didn’t use the words “I promise”.

He ran on a campaign of government support for industries that he chose to bail out – like GM, which he did bail out.  But it is an interesting choice of words.

I believe if we are here to support each other, and I can give you the love you and I both need to make this step together, that this marriage can last until death do we part.

Clearly, since he didn’t say “I promise”, that’s not a promise.

Score one for ThinkProgress, if you’re a lawyer.  These are the kind of people who’d find djinn, say something stupid, and then say “but I didn’t wish for that!”

Point 4:

4. Obama “did exactly nothing” on Bowles-Simpson. Ryan said, “He created a bipartisan debt commission. They came back with an urgent report. He thanked them, sent them on their way, and then did exactly nothing.” In fact, Ryan was instrumental in sabotaging the commission, leading the other House Republicans in voting against the plan.


Read ThinkProgress’s point.  They start with Ryan’s statement about Obama, then talk about what Ryan did.  They don’t talk about what Obama didn’t do.

There were a lot of reasons that Simpson-Bowles was flawed, and a lot of reasons for fiscally-minded Republicans, as well as entitlement-minded Democrats, to avoid it.  Obama ditched it.  What Ryan did doesn’t make the statement untrue.

Update: Started in Part 1.  Continued in Part 3.

  1. […] reiterate.  It doesn’t matter what promises you make if you don’t keep them.  See point 3.  It doesn’t matter what projected savings you have when those savings don’t […]

  2. […] Part 2.  Part 3. Rate this:Share this:FacebookTwitterDiggEmailLinkedInRedditStumbleUponLike this:Like2 […]

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