This Is How the DHS Seizes Your Guns

Posted: February 13, 2013 by ShortTimer in Government, Guns, Tyranny, United States Department of Homeland Security
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From TheTruthAboutGuns:

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) recently raided one of our readers: a small-time FFL dealer who does everything—everything—by the book. He has, however, consistently criticized the ATF for its unconstitutional regulations and long history of extra-legal activities. This is his story. Update to follow after he consults with his lawyers . . .

We’ll update here once they do.   Update below – apparently the target was AdamsGuns of Albuquerque, NM.

The story as told is rather chilling.

First of all, forget about them coming to the door. They’ll intercept you on your way home from the Doctor’s office (for example), then one vehicle will come up behind you and two will block your way in front and turn on the flashing lights. They then jump out with ‘real’ assault rifles, point them at you and order your hands up, and exit the vehicle.  You, being a law abiding citizen, comply. At gunpoint, they order you to assume the position against your car, handcuffs you and frisk you, and you’re directed to get into the back seat. Then the lead agent gets into the driver seat and drives your car to your driveway. You sit there with cuffed hands behind you – bleeding.

As multiple vehicles close off the street and announce over a loudspeaker for all your neighbors to remain indoors (and are prohibited from leaving), the lead agent calls your house and directs your wife to come out of the house – and sit in the front seat. She does. Then the Homeland Security Special Tactical Unit, and the county sheriff Swat Team arrive, and drive two armored cars over the curb onto the lawn, as the “Jack Booted Thugs” with machine guns, helmets, boots, camo, etc. enter and search your house.

You see a Homeland Security Helocopter circling overhead. You are asked if you have any explosives (well, several cans of black powder….) and are there any booby traps in the house. They offer to let you read the search warrant, but your hands are cuffed behind your back. The agent in your car reads it very quickly.

Read the whole thing.

There could be more to the story from either side, if one considers the history of Cavalry Arms as well as the ATF’s long and storied history of abuses.

Update: Apparently the target was AdamsGuns.

On January 22, 2013, my home and my business was raided and ransacked by ‘our’ Federal Government.  All firearms were seized, including customer consignments, shipments in transit in or out, antiques, airguns, and nonguns.  Invoices, Computers and other records were seized. The house was trashed. Documents were scattered and shuffled.  No charges were filed, and I expect to be operating on a reduced scale soon.

Update 2: From American Live Wire:

According to the Freedom Outpost, a raid occurred in the home of Robert Adams as the DPS and S.W.A.T. confiscated over a thousand guns on Wednesday. The court documents revealed that agents have been eying Adams for years, yet no charges were filed as of yet. However, authorities did seize dozens upon dozens of firearms from Adams’ home in Albuquerque.

That’ll be where forfeiture comes into play.

According to neighbors of Robert Adams, he was an avid gun collector and licensed seller. However, the authorities have reportedly been watching Adams for years as they have been investigating him for gun smuggling, tax evasion, and importation laws violations. The search warrant filed by the DPS also pointed out that Adams was already under investigation in Canada for keeping close to 80 illegal guns in a storage unit.

Odd that they didn’t bother to arrest him if he’s doing all this illegal stuff.

No one from the Department of Homeland Security has commented on the situation. It is unclear if Robert Adams will be charged with any crime at this time.

No charges, just forfeiture.  Remember, it’s the ATF’s motto.

They just grabbed some 1500 guns and a lot of his personal property from him and walked away.  Freedom Outpost notes that it’s odd they’ve been watching him for years, have 1500 pieces of evidence, take the time to hit him with a SWAT team, but don’t have enough to actually arrest him.

Something seriously smells here. How can you be investigated for years, yet upon serving a search warrant you don’t put forth any charges against a man when you confiscate nearly 1,500 firearms? I wish they had taken this kind of approach to the Obama Justice Department’s gunwalking program that trafficked nearly 2,500 firearms across the border into Mexico that has left hundreds dead. No one is claiming that the firearms that Adams had were used in any crime!

So much for the Obama administration’s claims that they aren’t against gun collectors. Sports shooters and hunters, you’re up next.

The whole situation is very odd.  Given the notes that NM authorities and NM DPS were involved and filed warrants, I find it even more odd.

Comments
  1. Reblogged this on DeborahBidwell's Blog and commented:
    and they wonder why law abiding citizens dont want to register to buy ammo or for their guns, duh

  2. Robert Wyatt says:

    Let me guess what happens next. The destroy the inside of your house seize your LEGAL GUNS and then before the case goes to court they drop the charges and somehow have managed to loose all of the property they took out of your house.. That about covers it, Right??

    • ShortTimer says:

      Look up how forfeiture works. They don’t lose anything. They just take it.

      The DEA uses forfeiture a lot to seize contraband. In their case, they’re usually seizing controlled substances, which regardless of how one feels about the war on drugs, clearly aren’t legal. They take drugs and money that are clearly drug proceeds, and they don’t give it back.

      In the case of the ATF, they seize guns, which are legal. But they just keep it. They don’t have to “lose” it.

      This Washington Times article goes into the expansion of forfeiture under Obama:
      http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/6/atfs-latest-gun-grab/

      “It’s a dangerous extension of the civil-forfeiture doctrine, a surreal legal fiction in which the seized property — not a person — is put on trial. This allows prosecutors to dispense with pesky constitutional rights, which conveniently don’t apply to inanimate objects. In this looking-glass world, the owner is effectively guilty until proved innocent and has the burden of proving otherwise. Anyone falsely accused will never see his property again unless he succeeds in an expensive uphill legal battle.”

      We wrote about this when it came out:
      https://thepatriotperspective.wordpress.com/2012/09/10/atfs-latest-gun-grab-always-think-forfeiture/

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